I recently had the unique privilege of interviewing one of my idols – IFBB Pro Bodybuilder Jeff Willet.
I first became an admirer when I read some interviews with him a few years ago. His philosophy was refreshingly simple – NO gimmicks and best of all, he attained his incredible physique naturally!
Last year I made one of the BEST bodybuilding investments I have ever made when I purchased both his Training DVDs. I also got a signed photo for my trouble (Thanks Jeff 😉 ).
Jeff graciously agreed to answer some questions I had that I thought would be of benefit to all MuscleHack readers.
In this interview, Jeff discusses:
- How many sets you should devote to each body part for maximum growth
- How often you should train each body part
- Why Biomechanicaly Optimized Form is best
- The true distinction between a compound and isolation exercise
- Why sticking to the basic exercises is best
- Staying Natural and the Steroid issue
- His new DVD
You’ll see during the course of the interview where I got a lot of my ideas from.
Mark: Jeff, I’d like to discuss your training philosophy. Firstly, you train each body part with 6-9 sets per workout once a week, as do I. Many times you’ll see guys in the gym for well over an hour hitting the same body part. Why is it important to keep workout duration short and limit the number of sets per body part?
Jeff: When you are training naturally you have to train very smart and one of the main principles to maximizing muscle growth is not over-training. Sticking to a low set volume is one of the key elements to ensure you do not over-train.
Low set volume also leads to shorter duration workouts. This is another tool for avoiding over-training and can lead directly to more intense workouts by increasing one’s ability to focus. For example, it is easier to keep high intensity for 6 sets of chest than trying to maintain the same intensity for 12 sets.
Mark: You’re one of the top proponents of what has been termed, “Biomechanically Optimized Form’. Oftentimes people confuse this with being sloppy. Can you possibly define ‘Optimized Form’ for us and say why you recommend it so highly?
Jeff: Optimized form simply means working with your natural biomechanics while lifting a heavy weight. It does not mean the absence of control or sloppy execution.
I think this is well illustrated if you have the chance to see any of my workout DVD’s.
It is important because if you work with your natural biomechanics you will be able to handle more weight and it is actually safer.
Mark: In your training DVD you refer to some exercises like ‘French Curls’ and ‘Barbell Curls’ as ‘compound’ movements. Most of the bodybuilding world think of movements like these as isolation exercises. Why the distinction, and has this something to do with working with the body’s biomechanics?
Jeff: I would consider barbell curls a compound movement as compared to something like concentration curls or preacher curls because barbell curls are a multi-joint/multi-muscle movement. This makes it a superior bicep exercise because the compound nature of it allows you to handle more weight through a more natural range of motion.
Same is true for French Curls.
Mark: Your DVD recommends only a limited range of different exercises. Do you feel the basic movements are best? Also, is it more important to progressively overload the muscles over time than it is to ‘confuse’ the muscles with new exercises every so often?
Jeff: I absolutely feel basic movements are best for the same reason I feel barbell curls are superior to other bicep exercises. They allow for the use of heavier weights through a more natural range of motion.
I definitely believe it is way more important to progressively overload a muscle over time than any notion of so called “muscle confusion.”
Mark: Now to the topic of drugs. When someone sees your physique, it would be very easy to conclude that you take, or took steroids. I know, as well as many others, that you don’t. Was there a main reason why you decided to stay natural and what words of advice would you have for those of us who want to attain awesome bodies without steroids?
Jeff: I decided long ago that I wanted to be a pro bodybuilder and I also decided that drug free would be the only way I would ever be. I always had belief that I could make it to the top drug free. I am not saying that belief had never been rattled at times when I was younger but thankfully my convictions were strong and my desire to succeed even stronger.
The older I got, the more I took it as a challenge when people would say you can’t win an IFBB pro card and remain drug free. It became my life’s quest to prove them wrong and to prove it to myself that I could do it.
Best advice for those who want to achieve without drugs is make sure you are learning from sources that know how to train naturally. Model your approach after those who have achieved without using drugs. Also pay as much attention to your nutrition as you pay to your workouts. Smart and consistent nutrition is critical.
Finally, the more great days you can string together of great execution, the better your results will be. If you are committed to being a great natural bodybuilder then you must be committed to around the clock attention to every detail.
Mark: I just visited your site and see there’s a new DVD available, ‘I Want To Look Like That Guy’, what’s it about?
Jeff: I am very excited about this DVD. It is a documentary about an “average” 42 year old man who also happens to be a film maker. He decided to ask the question, “What does it take to look like the guy in the fitness ads?” In the process, he decides to commit to entering a bodybuilding contest.
I train him throughout the project. I devise his diet, training, posting etc. You get to see everything he goes through as he starts at 204 lbs, 44 inch waist and 30% body fat and ends up at 154 lbs, 27 inch waist and only 6% body fat at the end.
As an interesting side to the story, I was asked to be the guest poser at the contest he entered. This was my last ever appearance onstage. You get to see footage of that and see some of what I reflect on in the weeks leading up to my final appearance.
I think it is a fantastic story that has a very meaningful and valuable conclusion.
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Thanks for the great interview, Jeff!
You’ve shared some valuable & accurate information here, AND I know you’ve inspired a lot of MuscleHack readers.
Stay Motivated Everyone!
Your Buddy,
Mark McManus
Awesome interview Mark & Jeff!
Thanks so much for this, I’m pumped!!!!!
Nice interview! Great points mentioned!
And the transformation by that “average” guy actually made me say a “wow” out loud! 🙂
I might get that DVD, seems pretty interesting!
Thanks,
dorian
Another “wow” from me! Great interview, excellent motivation 🙂
That “wow” goes for me too. Mark never has there been a teacher as great and thorough as you..keep up the great work 🙂
Thanks @Dorian, Rich, & John 😀
I think it’s interesting the photos say “six months later”… but according to the actor/writer in the preview of the film, it took two years for his physique to reach 6% body fat. Actual extrapolated stats:
204 @ 30% = 61.2 lbs fat, 142.8lbs lean
154 @ 6% = 9.24 lbs fat, 144.76lbs lean
So he lost 52 lbs of fat while putting on… (drum roll)… 2 lbs of muscle, all the while losing around half a pound of fat per week. Sounds sustainable and practical, a moderate loss to get where he’s going in a couple of years.
But I have one question: WTF on the muscle gains? I put on more muscle than that my first six weeks of training. Does this mean that when I start shooting for single-digit body fat, all my muscle gains will just disappear?
–Matt B.
I wanted to clear something up about the documentary as there seems to be some confusion.
The entire filming and editing took 2 years. The before and after photos you are looking at were during a 6 month period and measurements were documented in a Bod Pod which is the gold standard of body fat measurements.
There are 2 phases on the film. The first 18 week phase, Stuart trained Max-OT with little to no attention to diet and his changes were documented.
Then there was a period of time off before we started phase 2 and in that time off Stuart actually ended up in worse shape before going into phase 2 which are the before and after photos you are looking at.
In the 2nd phase Stuart followed the diet to the letter and actually competed in a bodybuilding contes at the end and achieve the dramatic changes you see.
This will all make sense if you see the film and follow his journey.
To achieve a drop from 30% to 6% bodyfat in 6 months while still showing a net gain of lean muscle in the end takes the execution of an intelligent plan.
Thank you for your time and attention.
Sincerely,
Jeff Willet
Hi Mark
Long time no speak my friend im bac from my wrist op and ready to go. Right now im on low Gi diet, cut all bad suger and carbs out and gaining extreamly well and when im happy with my size and weight ill cut the carbs too which brings me to my question did jeff mention his diet at all or is he on the same low carb diet many thanks mate hear from you soon.
Gaz
(Your like a virtual instructer at a clip of a button) 😉
Hi Mark
Long time no speak my friend im bac from my wrist op and ready to go. Right now im on low Gi diet, cut all bad suger and carbs out and gaining extreamly well and when im happy with my size and weight ill cut the carbs too which brings me to my question did jeff mention his diet at all or is he on the same low carb diet many thanks mate hear from you soon.
Gaz
(Your like a virtual instructer at a click of a button) 😉
Reply to Matt B.’s comment … If you shoot for Single digit body fat, it does not necessarily mean your muscle gains will disappear. But that guy who you were talking about that lost the 50lbs had a training goal that more or less was probably geared for fat loss because he was overweight, so he would have concentrated on fat loss and not primarily on muscle growth. You’ll learn that it is possible to try to get leaner and more muscular at the same time (it takes carb cycling which has various methods) however this is difficult and takes a lot of dedication (and maybe a little genetics -about 25% genetics), however most people seeking to gain maximum muscle and minimum fat find it easiest to gain all the muscle and some fat that will naturally come… Then after they have gotten their ideal amount of muscle then will they trim down to their ideal level of BF. Many cycle this pattern of bulking and trimming until they get their ideal physique.
Unrelated question – what do you think about Bowflex? Good or bad?
This was great – I was particularly glad to see the emphasis on progressive overload rather than “confusion”.
Great interview. I have been following Jeff and his career for around 8 years. And he’s one of the few bodybuilders that I have a lot of respect for.
Mark I’m suprised you didnt ask Willet about his carb intake! I’d love to hear about Jeff’s diet. Does he adhere to a musclehacker esque carb cycle???
Hi Mark,
I stumbled across your website by accident whilst in search of the old high fat diet. Your website is fantastic by the way and has a allot of very usefull information. I found another website called FitDay.com which is very good aswell it has like a macro nutrient caculator thing where u enter in all the food which you have consumed for the day. I was thinking that you should add something like this to your website.. It would be the icen on the cake.
cheers,
Ben